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The Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast

Jul 31, 2019

Welcome to the 183rd episode of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!


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Takeaways for Leaders:


There’s nothing wrong with making a mistake, just don’t waste a mistake. - Gordon MacDonald


Most of our work is underground work. 


When the root system is healthy, you will see the fruit.


It’s the leader’s job to step back and assess whether the tree is producing healthy fruit and which branches may need to be pruned.


We don’t hire hands and doers, we look for brains and leaders. 


We don’t hire for today, we hire for tomorrow.


We focus more on character and chemistry than we do competency.