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The Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast

Nov 15, 2017

Welcome to Episode 95 of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast! If you enjoy listening to this podcast and it has helped you and your team in any way, please leave us a review on Apple Podcast or Stitcher or take the time to share it on social media. Do you have a question for Pastor Josh about leadership, ministry, or any other topic we’ve covered on the podcast so far? Submit your questions to or @joshgagnon on Twitter and Pastor Josh might answer it on a future episode! On today’s episode we will be talking about how “looking good” as a church does not, on its own, sustain growth. Takeaways from this episode: Looking good from the outside does not sustain growth. “Coolness” can attract people to the party, but it won’t make people stick. Who we are is not defined by how we look as a church. Attracting a crowd does not keep a crowd. -If the engines are not polished underneath the hood, then we are not going to be sustaining growth. -What structures and systems do you have in your organization that are really good, but you’re not doing them? Stop focusing on problems you have, and start focusing on what’s creating those problems. You need an engine to drive you where you want to go. Live within the systems and structures you create. Don't just have the parts, make sure they work well together. Quotes from this episode: “You don’t have to talk bad about what has been to stand firm in who you are.” -Joshua Gagnon “Sometimes we think things matter that don’t matter.” -Joshua Gagnon “Maybe ‘coolness’ does not grow God’s church.” -Joshua Gagnon “It’s not enough to have structures and systems, you have to do it well.” -Joshua Gagnon “It’s not enough to have good atmospheres, you have to have good structures and systems.” -Joshua Gagnon “Every organization has the possibility and the opportunity to develop systems and structures in a healthy culture that will produce healthy outcomes.” -Joshua Gagnon “Every part of an engine has to work cohesively together for the car to run smoothly.” -Joshua Gagnon