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The Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast

Aug 16, 2017

Welcome to Episode 82 of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast! If you enjoy listening to this podcast and it has helped you and your team in any way, please leave us a review on Apple Podcast or Stitcher or take the time to share it on social media. Do you have a question for Pastor Josh about leadership, ministry, or any other topic we’ve covered on the podcast so far? Submit your questions to or @joshgagnon on Twitter and Pastor Josh might answer it on a future episode! Today we will be talking with Tony Morgan, founder and lead strategist of The Unstuck Group, as well as consultant, leadership coach and writer who helps churches get unstuck and have a bigger impact. Takeaways from this episode… “Most churches start, grow, thrive, decline, and eventually end.” -Tony Morgan Many churches get stuck in the strategic growth season. When you get to this phase, you need to make intentional changes for sustained growth. -The leader of 10’s: typically leading by example and doing everything (typical in early ministry launch) -Leader of 50’s: begins to lead others by delegation -“Leading others” leader: moving from delegating tasks to empowering people on their team (growth snags happen frequently in this phase) Relational leadership needs to be accompanied at some point by someone missionally/task oriented. Our ministry will be most healthy when we realize that many parts make up one body. Mission, vision, and strategy = 3 components of ministry Vision is simply clarifying where we believe God is calling us next. Strategy is clarifying not only where we are going, but how we are going to get there. If a church doesn’t periodically assess their “why,” they will easily lose sight of it and focus more on the “how.” Quotes from this episode: “Most churches start, grow, thrive, decline, and eventually end.” -Tony Morgan “Our natural tendency is to do what we have always done.” -Tony Morgan “What’s most urgent may not be what’s most important.” -Tony Morgan “Multi-site is not a growth strategy; it’s an evangelism strategy.” -Tony Morgan “Everything that the church is doing needs to be focused on reaching people outside the faith.” -Tony Morgan More about Tony: Website- Twitter-@tonymorganlive The Unstuck Church (book)-